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Which is faster?

The Honda S2000 AP2 is faster — 4s quicker on average across 109 shared tracks.

Few rivalries in modern enthusiast circles inspire as much debate as the Honda S2000 AP2 versus the Subaru BRZ. Both are rear-drive, naturally aspirated coupes (well, the S2000 is a roadster), forged in Japan with an eye toward balance and feedback rather than brute force. Yet, their underlying philosophies—and the on-track results—reveal two very different approaches to the art of going fast.

The S2000 AP2 is the archetype of Honda’s “precision above all” ethos. Its F22C1 engine delivers 240 PS through a razor-sharp throttle, revving to the kind of stratospheric heights that demand commitment. The chassis, with its double wishbones at all four corners and near-perfect weight distribution, telegraphs every nuance. On track, the car is alive to steering inputs and rewards the driver who can dance at the edge of adhesion—oversteer isn’t just possible, it’s a natural extension of the car’s dialogue. This is reflected in its pace grid, where it’s consistently quicker than average, especially as mods and tire grip ramp up. The S2000’s best performances cluster in the hands of skilled drivers exploiting its fine balance and willingness to rotate—see the dominant lap at Nürburgring - BTG, a 7:32 (link), besting the BRZ by 35 seconds even on comparable prep and rubber.

The Subaru BRZ, meanwhile, champions accessibility and predictability. Its 2.0-liter flat-four is less dramatic—197 PS delivered with linear honesty, torque that arrives early, and a powerband that never surprises. The chassis is tuned for neutrality: a touch more understeer at the limit, a gentler breakaway, and damping that soaks up mid-corner bumps without unsettling the car. For many, the BRZ is a car that flatters the novice and expert alike, allowing you to push to (and slightly beyond) your limits without fear of a sudden snap. This makes it a formidable platform for consistent lapping and incremental improvement, as evidenced by its near-parity with the S2000 in overall pace (-1.49% vs. -1.61%) and its ability to win on tracks that reward stability, like Hockenheimring - GP with a 1:55.57 (link) to the Honda’s 2:32.3—though conditions and driver experience do factor heavily in some of these outliers.

As circuits become tighter and more technical, the S2000’s high-revving character and rapid transient response tend to shine. At Laguna Seca, for example, the S2000’s 1:33.189 (link) edges out the BRZ’s 1:44.69 by over 11 seconds, a gap that speaks to both engine and chassis poise through the Corkscrew and Turn 9. But on faster, flowier venues—especially when the BRZ is modified with forced induction or swapped engines—the Subaru can claw back time. Take Buttonwillow Raceway - 13CW, where a turbocharged BRZ managed a 1:33.648 (link), besting the Honda’s 1:41.2.

Trade-offs abound. The S2000’s sharpness means mistakes are punished—the car will rotate eagerly, but catch you out if you’re ham-fisted with the throttle or steering. It’s a car that demands attention, ideal for those who savor the challenge of extracting every last tenth. The BRZ is more forgiving, allowing you to lean on its chassis without anxiety, making it a favorite for drivers honing their craft or seeking consistency across variable conditions (as shown by its resilience in the wet at Pineview Run).

Ultimately, the S2000 AP2 is a connoisseur’s tool—a car for the driver who wants to feel every surface, every load shift, and who seeks the satisfaction of perfecting their technique. The BRZ, in contrast, is the consummate all-rounder: approachable, adaptable, and endlessly modifiable, with a chassis that never intimidates. Both shine on track, but the S2000 rewards the patient and precise, while the BRZ welcomes all comers and rewards the persistent. Your ideal track companion depends less on raw stats, and more on which type of conversation you want to have every lap.

Last updated: Mar 6, 2026

Specifications

Specifications Honda S2000 AP2 S2000 AP2 Subaru BRZ BRZ
Model Years 2004-2009 2012-2022
horsepower 240 197
torque (N_M) 220 205
weight (KG) 1,297 1,298
Power to Weight 0.19 0.15
Rank #152 #250
Tire 140 R050
215/45/17 / 245/40/17
200 CR-S (CR-1)
215/45/17
engine Description 2.2L NA I4 (F22C1 ) 2.0 L 4U-GSE/FA20 H4
gearbox 6 SPEED MANUAL 6-SPEED MANUAL
drive Type RWD RWD
wheelbase (MM) 2400 2570
width (MM) 1753 1775
length (MM) 4140 4239
height (MM) 1295 1285
0 - 60 MPH 5.8 SECs 6.2 SECs
top Speed (KPH) 240 233
price MSRP $ 33,465 $ 28,845
Current Value $ 40,000 $ 25,000
OVERALL VS AVERAGE LAP TIMES -0.64s +3.24s

Honda S2000 AP2 S2000 AP2 — Lap Times vs Average

Treadwear/MOD LEVEL Stock/Light S/L Medium Med Heavy/Race H/R
>200 +5.1s +3.56s -7.57s
141–200 +4.47s +0.09s -7.57s
100–140 -1.93s -1.93s -7.57s
0–99 -1.93s -1.93s -7.57s

Subaru BRZ BRZ — Lap Times vs Average

Treadwear/MOD LEVEL Stock/Light S/L Medium Med Heavy/Race H/R
>200 +10.49s +8.57s +5.26s
141–200 +5.27s +3.81s -2.14s
100–140 +5.27s +1.81s -3.19s
0–99 +5.27s -0.42s -3.63s

Lap Times

Track Name S2000 AP2 S2000 AP… BRZ BRZ Diff Mod Treadwear TW Video
Laguna Seca (Current) 1:38.2 1:44.69 -6.49 Medium 141–200
Ridge Motorsports Park (Current) 1:48.31 1:51.24 -2.93 Medium 141–200
Thunderhill (East 3 Mile w/ Bypass) 1:54 1:59.64 -5.64 Heavy 0–99
Circuit of the Americas - COTA (CCW) 2:19.524 2:22.442 -2.91 Heavy 141–200
Nürburgring (BTG) 7:59 8:07.103 -8.1 Medium 141–200
Raceway Park of the Midlands (CW) 1:47.984 1:52.416 -4.43 Light 141–200
Palmer Motorsports Park (CW) 1:46.29 1:50.2 -3.91 Medium 141–200
Chuckwalla Valley Raceway (CW) 1:58.6 1:56.871 +1.72 Heavy 100–140
New Jersey Motorsports Park-NJMP (Lightning) 1:12.69 1:14.996 -2.3 Medium 141–200
New Jersey Motorsports Park-NJMP (Thunderbolt (Pre 2024)) 1:30.76 1:28.89 +1.87 Medium 0–99
Summit Point Motorsports Park (Main) 1:20.76 1:21.16 -0.4 Medium 0–99
Motorsport Ranch-MSR Cresson (3.1) 2:25.178 2:28.853 -3.67 Medium 141–200
Lime Rock Park (CW) 0:55.467 1:01.9 -6.43 Heavy 141–200
Watkins Glen International (Full Circuit w/ Loop) 2:09.68 2:08.08 +1.6 Medium 0–99 VS
Buttonwillow Raceway (13CW) 2:00.1 2:04.5 -4.4 Light 141–200 VS
Motorsport Ranch-MSR Cresson (1.7 CCW) 1:21 1:22.9 -1.9 Medium 141–200
Harris Hill Raceway (CW) 1:31.68 1:28.2 +3.48 Light 141–200 VS
MSR Houston (CCW) 1:44.961 1:53.2 -8.23 Medium 141–200 VS
Eagles Canyon Raceway (2.7 miles CCW) 2:02.1 2:10.7 -8.6 Medium 141–200
Autobahn Country Club (South Circuit) 1:27.898 1:32.08 -4.18 Heavy 141–200 VS
Thunderhill (West) 1:18.6 1:24.95 -6.35 Heavy 141–200 VS
Hockenheimring (GP) 1:54.588 1:55.57 -0.98 Race 141–200
Wild Horse Pass Motorsports Park-WHP (East) 1:04.357 1:04.91 -0.55 Medium 100–140
Willow Springs Raceway (Streets) 1:23.719 1:24.7 -0.98 Medium 141–200
Pittsburgh International Race Complex - PittRace (Full Course) 2:00.379 1:59.643 +0.73 Medium 141–200 VS
Willow Springs Raceway (Big Willow) 1:31.46 1:35.976 -4.51 Medium 141–200
Carolina Motorsports Park (Full) 1:46.074 1:43.85 +2.22 Medium 0–99 VS
Palmer Motorsports Park (CCW) 1:45.9 1:52.58 -6.68 Medium 141–200 VS
Toronto Motorsports Park (CW) 1:18.89 1:20.599 -1.7 Medium 141–200
Willow Springs Raceway (Streets - CCW) 1:29.5 1:27.05 +2.45 Light 141–200
Pikes Peak International Raceway (CCW) 1:04.096 1:02.289 +1.8 Race 141–200
Phillip Island Grand Prix Circuit (CCW) 1:49.9 1:48.21 +1.69 Medium 100–140
Winton Motor Raceway (National Circuit CW) 1:33.89 1:35.81 -1.92 Medium 141–200
Luddenham Raceway (CW) 0:54.9 0:56.3 -1.4 Medium 141–200
Thunderhill (5 Mile w/Double Bypass) 3:11.3 3:24.7 -13.4 Medium 141–200
Sonoma Raceway (Long) 1:51.181 1:53.1 -1.91 Medium 141–200
Buttonwillow Raceway (Circuit) 1:57.37 2:02.6 -5.23 Medium 141–200
NCM Motorsports Park-National Corvette Museum (Mulsanne Chicane) 2:16.98 2:26.1 -9.12 Medium 141–200

Additional Lap Times

Track Name S2000 AP2 S2000 AP… BRZ BRZ Diff Mod Treadwear TW Video
Laguna Seca (Current) 1:33.189 1:44.69 -11.5 Race / Med 40 / 200
Oregon Raceway Park (CW) 1:58.032 1:58.18 -0.14 Med / Med 200 / 40 VS
Ridge Motorsports Park (Current) 1:48.31 1:58.76 -10.45 Med / Stock 200 / 200 VS
Thunderhill (East 3 Mile w/ Bypass) 1:51.886 1:53.248 -1.36 Race / Heavy 40 / 100
Circuit of the Americas - COTA (CCW) 2:22.5 2:22.442 +0.05 Race / Heavy 140 / 200
Nürburgring (BTG) 7:32 8:07.103 -35.1 Heavy / Med 140 / 200
Barber Motorsports Park (CW) 1:38.22 1:42.094 -3.87 Heavy / Med 300 / 200 VS
Sonoma Raceway (Long Pre 2024) 1:48.603 1:48.09 +0.51 Med / Heavy 200 / 100
Road Atlanta (Current) 1:33.547 1:35.57 -2.02 Heavy / Heavy 100 / 200
Raceway Park of the Midlands (CW) 1:42 1:41.38 +0.62 Heavy / Heavy 300 / 200
Palmer Motorsports Park (CW) 1:46.29 1:53 -6.71 Med / Light 200 / 200
Chuckwalla Valley Raceway (CW) 1:53.9 1:56.871 -2.97 Race / Heavy 200 / 100
Atlanta Motorsports Park (CCW) 1:30.53 1:29.73 +0.8 Heavy / Med 40 / 40
Dominion Raceway (CCW) 1:33.75 1:32.53 +1.22 Med / Heavy 100 / 100 VS
New Jersey Motorsports Park-NJMP (Lightning) 1:12.555 1:13.1 -0.54 Med / Heavy 100 / 1
New Jersey Motorsports Park-NJMP (Thunderbolt (Pre 2024)) 1:28.705 1:27.2 +1.5 Med / Heavy 100 / 1
Summit Point Motorsports Park (Main) 1:20.368 1:20 +0.36 Med / Race 100 / 40
Hallett Motor Racing Circuit (CW) 1:25.5 1:23.18 +2.32 Med / Race 200 / 200
Lime Rock Park (CW) 0:55.467 0:56.855 -1.38 Heavy / Heavy 200 / 1
Watkins Glen International (Full Circuit w/ Loop) 2:07.202 2:08.08 -0.87 Med / Med 100 / 40
Buttonwillow Raceway (13CW) 1:49.2 1:50.2 -1 Heavy / Heavy 200 / 100
Motorsport Ranch-MSR Cresson (1.7 CCW) 1:19.2 1:22.9 -3.7 Race / Med 200 / 200
Harris Hill Raceway (CW) 1:23.735 1:28.2 -4.46 Med / Light 200 / 200 VS
Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course (Pro Course) 1:36.474 1:35.643 +0.83 Med / Heavy 40 / 200
MSR Houston (CCW) 1:43.332 1:53.2 -9.86 Race / Med 140 / 200
Eagles Canyon Raceway (2.7 miles CCW) 2:00.94 2:10.7 -9.76 Race / Med 200 / 200
Autobahn Country Club (Full Circuit) 2:42.43 2:40.2 +2.23 Med / Heavy 200 / 200
Autobahn Country Club (South Circuit) 1:27.898 1:32.782 -4.88 Heavy / Race 200 / 200
High Plains Raceway (Full) 1:59.6 2:03.266 -3.66 Race / Heavy 200 / 100
Thunderhill (West) 1:18.6 1:26.5 -7.9 Heavy / Med 200 / 200 VS
Hockenheimring (GP) 1:54.588 2:06.836 -12.24 Race / Med 200 / 220
Wild Horse Pass Motorsports Park-WHP (East) 1:04.357 1:01.26 +3.09 Med / Heavy 100 / 100 VS
Willow Springs Raceway (Streets) 1:19 1:24.7 -5.7 Race / Med 200 / 200
Pittsburgh International Race Complex - PittRace (Full Course) 1:55.924 1:59.643 -3.71 Med / Med 100 / 200 VS
GingerMan Raceway (Extended Course 10B CW) 1:33.09 1:38.433 -5.34 Heavy / Race 200 / 200
Blackhawk Farms Raceway (CW) 1:13.582 1:21.37 -7.78 Heavy / Med 200 / 200
Putnam Park Road Course (Long Course CW) 1:15.4 1:23.8 -8.4 Race / Light 200 / 200
Willow Springs Raceway (Big Willow) 1:31.46 1:30.778 +0.68 Med / Heavy 200 / 200
Carolina Motorsports Park (Full) 1:45.008 1:43.85 +1.15 Med / Med 200 / 40 VS
Palmer Motorsports Park (CCW) 1:45.9 1:43.536 +2.36 Med / Heavy 200 / 200 VS
Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course (Club Circuit) 1:39.775 1:46.35 -6.57 Med / Med 100 / 200
Heartland Motorsports Park (Grand Prix CCW w/fast 8) 1:46.806 1:45.599 +1.2 Med / Race 200 / 200
Summit Point Motorsports Park (Shenandoah Circuit CCW) 1:39.03 1:38.94 +0.09 Med / Race 100 / 40
Canaan Motor Club (CW) 1:03.802 1:05.5 -1.69 Med / Heavy 200 / 200
Toronto Motorsports Park (CW) 1:19.92 1:20.599 -0.67 Med / Med 140 / 200
Chuckwalla Valley Raceway (CCW) 1:55.9 1:57 -1.1 Race / Heavy 200 / 200
Lime Rock Park (Road Course w/ Two Chicanes) 1:04.16 1:06.22 -2.06 Med / Race 140 / 100
Arizona Motorsports Park - AMP (Main Track - CW) 1:52.48 1:46.361 +6.11 Med / Heavy 200 / 100
Motorsport Park Hastings (CW) 1:31.79 1:41.23 -9.44 Race / Med 40 / 200 VS
Willow Springs Raceway (Streets - CCW) 1:29.5 1:18.054 +11.44 Light / Heavy 200 / 100
Pikes Peak International Raceway (CCW) 0:58.548 1:02.289 -3.74 Heavy / Race 200 / 200
Pueblo Motorsports Park (CW) 1:42.37 1:48.498 -6.12 Race / Med 200 / 200
Texas World Speedway (2.9 Mile CCW) 1:51.776 1:59.89 -8.11 Race / Med 40 / 100
Winton Motor Raceway (National Circuit CW) 1:31.72 1:34.588 -2.86 Heavy / Med 140 / 100
Adams Motorsports Park (CW) 0:44.069 0:47.97 -3.9 Med / Med 100 / 260
Spring Mountain Motor Resort (CW) 2:08 2:13.44 -5.44 Med / Light 100 / 200
Spring Mountain Motor Resort (Mansell C 3.4 Mile) 2:37.92 2:45.88 -7.96 Med / Light 200 / 200
Luddenham Raceway (CW) 0:54.9 0:53.84 +1.06 Med / Med 200 / 100
Driveway Austin Motorsports (Fiorano L1 Course) 0:37.6 0:36.4 +1.2 Med / Light 140 / 200
Thunderhill (5 Mile w/Double Bypass) 3:10.16 3:24.7 -14.54 Med / Med 100 / 200
Grandsport Speedway (1.4 Mile CCW) 1:02.887 1:11.9 -9.01 Race / Light 40 / 200
Suzuka Circuit (CW) 2:32.418 2:27.699 +4.71 Light / Med 200 / 100
Ozark International Raceway (CW) 2:39.88 2:43.98 -4.1 Race / Heavy 40 / 40 VS
Ridge Motorsports Park (Pre 2021) 1:55.6 1:57.62 -2.02 Med / Med 200 / 100 VS
Willow Springs Raceway (Streets Pre 2022) 1:27.721 1:24.522 +3.19 Light / Heavy 200 / 200
Willow Springs Raceway (Streets CCW Pre 2022) 1:30.222 1:30.2 +0.02 Med / Light 220 / 200
Buttonwillow Raceway (25CW) 2:02.53 2:08 -5.47 Race / Med 100 / 200
Okayama International Circuit (CW) 1:43.78 1:43.942 -0.16 Med / Med 200 / 140
Sonoma Raceway (Long) 1:40.075 1:53.1 -13.02 Race / Med 40 / 200
Laguna Seca (Pre 2023) 1:40.011 1:33.648 +6.36 Med / Heavy 100 / 100
Buttonwillow Raceway (Circuit) 1:54.3 2:02.6 -8.3 Race / Med 200 / 200
NCM Motorsports Park-National Corvette Museum (Mulsanne Chicane) 2:05.72 2:15.25 -9.53 Heavy / Heavy 300 / 200
New Jersey Motorsports Park-NJMP (Thunderbolt) 1:28.08 1:29.688 -1.6 Med / Race 100 / 200 VS
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