The Honda S2000 AP2 is faster — 4s quicker on average across 109 shared tracks.
Few rivalries in modern enthusiast circles inspire as much debate as the Honda S2000 AP2 versus the Subaru BRZ. Both are rear-drive, naturally aspirated coupes (well, the S2000 is a roadster), forged in Japan with an eye toward balance and feedback rather than brute force. Yet, their underlying philosophies—and the on-track results—reveal two very different approaches to the art of going fast.
The S2000 AP2 is the archetype of Honda’s “precision above all” ethos. Its F22C1 engine delivers 240 PS through a razor-sharp throttle, revving to the kind of stratospheric heights that demand commitment. The chassis, with its double wishbones at all four corners and near-perfect weight distribution, telegraphs every nuance. On track, the car is alive to steering inputs and rewards the driver who can dance at the edge of adhesion—oversteer isn’t just possible, it’s a natural extension of the car’s dialogue. This is reflected in its pace grid, where it’s consistently quicker than average, especially as mods and tire grip ramp up. The S2000’s best performances cluster in the hands of skilled drivers exploiting its fine balance and willingness to rotate—see the dominant lap at Nürburgring - BTG, a 7:32 (link), besting the BRZ by 35 seconds even on comparable prep and rubber.
The Subaru BRZ, meanwhile, champions accessibility and predictability. Its 2.0-liter flat-four is less dramatic—197 PS delivered with linear honesty, torque that arrives early, and a powerband that never surprises. The chassis is tuned for neutrality: a touch more understeer at the limit, a gentler breakaway, and damping that soaks up mid-corner bumps without unsettling the car. For many, the BRZ is a car that flatters the novice and expert alike, allowing you to push to (and slightly beyond) your limits without fear of a sudden snap. This makes it a formidable platform for consistent lapping and incremental improvement, as evidenced by its near-parity with the S2000 in overall pace (-1.49% vs. -1.61%) and its ability to win on tracks that reward stability, like Hockenheimring - GP with a 1:55.57 (link) to the Honda’s 2:32.3—though conditions and driver experience do factor heavily in some of these outliers.
As circuits become tighter and more technical, the S2000’s high-revving character and rapid transient response tend to shine. At Laguna Seca, for example, the S2000’s 1:33.189 (link) edges out the BRZ’s 1:44.69 by over 11 seconds, a gap that speaks to both engine and chassis poise through the Corkscrew and Turn 9. But on faster, flowier venues—especially when the BRZ is modified with forced induction or swapped engines—the Subaru can claw back time. Take Buttonwillow Raceway - 13CW, where a turbocharged BRZ managed a 1:33.648 (link), besting the Honda’s 1:41.2.
Trade-offs abound. The S2000’s sharpness means mistakes are punished—the car will rotate eagerly, but catch you out if you’re ham-fisted with the throttle or steering. It’s a car that demands attention, ideal for those who savor the challenge of extracting every last tenth. The BRZ is more forgiving, allowing you to lean on its chassis without anxiety, making it a favorite for drivers honing their craft or seeking consistency across variable conditions (as shown by its resilience in the wet at Pineview Run).
Ultimately, the S2000 AP2 is a connoisseur’s tool—a car for the driver who wants to feel every surface, every load shift, and who seeks the satisfaction of perfecting their technique. The BRZ, in contrast, is the consummate all-rounder: approachable, adaptable, and endlessly modifiable, with a chassis that never intimidates. Both shine on track, but the S2000 rewards the patient and precise, while the BRZ welcomes all comers and rewards the persistent. Your ideal track companion depends less on raw stats, and more on which type of conversation you want to have every lap.
Specifications
| Specifications | Honda S2000 AP2 S2000 AP2 | Subaru BRZ BRZ |
|---|---|---|
| Model Years | 2004-2009 | 2012-2022 |
| horsepower | 240 | 197 |
| torque (N_M) | 220 | 205 |
| weight (KG) | 1,297 | 1,298 |
| Power to Weight | 0.19 | 0.15 |
| Rank | #152 | #250 |
| Tire |
140 R050
215/45/17 / 245/40/17 |
200 CR-S (CR-1)
215/45/17 |
| engine Description | 2.2L NA I4 (F22C1 ) | 2.0 L 4U-GSE/FA20 H4 |
| gearbox | 6 SPEED MANUAL | 6-SPEED MANUAL |
| drive Type | RWD | RWD |
| wheelbase (MM) | 2400 | 2570 |
| width (MM) | 1753 | 1775 |
| length (MM) | 4140 | 4239 |
| height (MM) | 1295 | 1285 |
| 0 - 60 MPH | 5.8 SECs | 6.2 SECs |
| top Speed (KPH) | 240 | 233 |
| price MSRP | $ 33,465 | $ 28,845 |
| Current Value | $ 40,000 | $ 25,000 |
| OVERALL VS AVERAGE LAP TIMES | -0.64s | +3.24s |